Proctor Valley Road
Proctor Valley Road,
Chula Vista, California
(Between Chula Vista and Jamul)
Although civilization continues to move east encroaching upon what was once a whole lot of nothing, urban legends still run rampant on what remains of Proctor Valley Road. As you leave Chula Vista, taking the road east / northeast, where Proctor Valley Road shrinks down from multiple lanes to a mostly gravel covered street, allowing passage to Jamul in San Diego County, urban legend may just be reality. Driving the gravel road, you take your life into your hands, as you must brave ghosts, demon cars, a bakery massacre, and even a fearsome monster!
You've all heard the urban legend about the teenage couple parked somewhere remote like the woods, a lake, some isolated road. Well in California, that spot is Proctor Valley Road. The teenage couple goes and parks along Proctor Valley Road, but when it's time to return to civilization, the couple's car breaks down, either it has a flat tire or simply won't restart. The boy gets out to either investigate or go and get help . . . but he never returns. The girl stays inside the car, all night, terrified to get out because of the strange scratching noises she hears outside the car. The next day, luckily for her, police find her, still hiding within the car. But her boyfriend isn't so lucky. He's hanging from a nearby tree, dead, completely torn up and bloody, swaying back and forth in the wind, his hand causing the scratching noises on the car, a victim of the Proctor Valley Monster! You just need to give the monster a hook hand . . .
Of course, the urban legend has changed some over the years. Since probably the 1970s the Proctor Valley Monster has been described as an oddly built bovine, some sort of cow headed monster, seven feet tall, hairy and big foot like, perhaps a modern day Minotaur hiding on the edges of Chula Vista. Supposedly as early as at least the 1960s, he has been responsible for livestock mutilation that has occurred within the valley. And his giant footprints have even been discovered. There's even supposedly a cast of one of his strange footprints at the Bonita Museum in Chula Vista. The cast measures 18 inches long. Although there are some who claim that the cast is just Bigfoot's.
Not scary enough for you? Then, how about the tale of the Haven Bakery . . . formerly in Jamul, at the other end of Proctor Valley Road, but now long gone, the bakery was run by a father with a young daughter. One day, the father comes home to the bakery from a business trip and discovers his daughter hanging by her neck from the ceiling in the basement, dead. He snaps and goes completely insane, kills all of his workers in the restaurant, stacking their bodies in the restaurant bathroom, and then hangs himself as well. Before the place was torn down in 2008, it was rumored to have been extremely haunted, particularly the bathroom and basement. The basement was rumored to contain the ghost of the little girl. Regardless it was a popular place for high school students to go at night and graffiti. Supposedly the true story is simply that a poor girl fell down the basement stairs and died later at the hospital, but a bakery massacre is much more terrifying. It might now be a Walgreens in Jamul, although no clue if it's still haunted by the ghost of the young girl.
Need more evidence that the road and area is cursed? How about the demon car? It's said that while out in the middle of nowhere, alone in the dark on the dirt portion of Proctor Valley Road, drivers will see behind them a pair of headlights . . . gaining on them. No matter how fast you go, the headlights will continue to get closer, until finally they are right upon you, tailgating your car, chasing you mercilessly as you race through the darkness trying to get to safety from the demon lights behind you. But that's not the most terrifying thing. The lights appear to not be attached to anything. There's no car behind the headlights, just darkness, pitch black darkness, no car, no body, no windows, nothing. Just headlights and a solid black mass. The headlights will chase you until the dirt road ends and then they just stop right at the edge of the pavement. If you stick around to watch they will recede back down the dirt road, eventually disappearing back into the darkness.
And then there's the ghost of the woman. The story around her varies. Some say she is a hitchhiker in either a blue or white gown. Some stories say that if you pick her up, she will kill you before you get to the end of the road. Of course, other stories state that if you don't pick her up, she will kill you before you get to the end of the road. Kinda a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. The more common version of the story describes her as a girl who died in a car accident on prom night, now looking for a ride home, but other versions of the story have her getting raped and murdered, and now trying to find and get vengeance on her killers. Yet another version of the story refer to her as a prostitute, and still others as part of a cult that wears blue nightgowns (um? what? that's some stylish cult). She has been described as both a woman all in white with a horribly mutilated face and as a woman in blue lying huddled on the road who upon seeing the approaching car began waving her arms to flag down the driver (who drove out of there as fast as they could). Perhaps with so many versions, there's more than one ghost!
So if a cow monster, demon headlights, a ghost girl, and stories of a bakery massacre still aren't enough to keep you away from Proctor Valley Road, a whole host of other phenomenon have been said to occur out there. There's possibly a screaming banshee, the ghost of a homeless man, and a weird flying ball of fire about the size of a basketball. People have heard phantom screams of a woman, plus heard phantom footsteps off in the darkness. Even your car radio will conspire against you, as some travelers have had the radio station change and pick up weird transmissions, often in Spanish, and usually involving strange chase music. It's also said that if you turn your car off, and your car's lights, you will see a phantom ghost in a dress before you. More recently there have been tales of Chupacabra wandering the area.
In addition to all the strange and weird hazards on the road, there are also probably several more mundane ones including border patrol, police, and perhaps even smugglers all using the road. And, in a what sounds like a more eighties urban legend, there are also reports of cults and KKK members. Be careful if you drive Proctor Valley Road. It has everything but aliens.
- Ccr of Cabo Mexico, BCS on 2020-04-10 said:
- Although it hasn't happened to me personally I have heard all these legends since the 60's. It is a spooky road in a remote place. It provided hours of fun and terrifying moments on countless occasions. I only wish my kids had known those great times Everything today is vanilla flavored
- Kw of Bonita, California on 2018-08-19 said:
- Back in 76 77 78 who are the new golf course sits there in Bonita the old White House in that house ever used to go to Proctor Valley all the time on horseback mini bikes and bicycles Used To Raise Hell on Proctor Valley we had a lot of fun there
- Darlene Crawford of Imprial Beach, California on 2018-03-15 said:
- when i was a teenager we used to camp out at proctor valley road. sorry to say we never seen any ghosts.
- Debi of Jamul, Ca on 2018-03-15 said:
- The Haven Bakery in Jamul still stands! The house is gone...but the barn where the bakery was and the killings happened is on Vista Sage off the 94. My daughter and her family live right up the road from it. A few weeks ago, her and my Granddaughter were making a late night visit to the grocery store...when they both went silent and looked at eachother. A young girl in white was hovering on the side of the road by the Jamul Haven. You could see right through her. Both of them saw her. She just looked at them for a second and disappeared.
- melinda of La Mesa, California on 2018-03-14 said:
- I took a tour of the bakery with a couple girlfriends right before it was torn down. Rumor had it that nobody was able to record any photographs or video inside the place, so I brought my video camera, and although I could see the reel turning and hear it squeeking as it recorded, None of the footage from inside came out on the tape, only the outside footage. The basement was so cold and eerie we were unable to even go down there.
- David of solana beachon 2017-10-22 said:
- one morning in oct 1986, i was driving down to work to Descanso from Mtn Laguna on the sunrise highway. I was a hotshot firefighter and well aquatinted with that area and the forest. on a sweeping curve, I almost hit this person crossing the road, so close we looked at each other. This person was about 6 foot tall, very dirty, long dark hair and unkept beard and barefoot, wearing torn clothes. I had to break to avoid hitting him and saw behind me he kept walking into the forest. My buddy/co-worker was in another car behind me. We stopped to talk a couple miles down the road and he'd seen it too. we were trying to understand, it was freaky, maybe a mountain hermit or an escaped prisoner from a corrections camp, or something different, even had the big foot walking stride. I continued down until near the town of pine valley and saw a highway patrol vehicle and stop to speak with him.
- Tati of Spring Valley, CA on 2017-09-19 said:
- IT'S ALL MADE UP!!!!!!!!!!
I been to proctor valley plenty of times & nothing out of the ordinary or paranormal has ever happened to me. I even traveled to a lake that was there at night with a couple of friends and nothing strange happened. Although we did hear a screetching sound, but I believe it was just an owl. The only thing that did occur while we were there was the car having trouble starting up, but that was all. We never seen the lady in a blue dress, handprints never appeared on the car after the drive through proctor valley, and no ghost car ever chased us through the road eitherlike some people have said.
- Joseph of Chula Vista, CA on 2017-05-08 said:
- Why doesn't the county pave the damn road to short cut between south county and east county. I live off East H and have family in RSD. Only makes complete sense.
- Juan Arteaga of C.V., CA on 2017-03-20 said:
- I've lived in Chula Vista, CA. since 1961. Have seen a great deal of development over the years especially eastwardly. During my Jr. high and high school years all of the previously mentioned stories or versions of them were spread around by the teens. I currently live on the eastern side of Chula Vista. About three to four years ago, I travelled for the first time during a late Saturday afternoon westwardly through Proctor Valley. I was coming back from Jamul to CV. All I experienced was a very bad road which I am sure screwed up my car's suspension. No monsters, ghosts, aliens, maniacal hitch-hikers, kkk, or skinheads, which would truly be the only " human monsters" about whom to worry bothered me. I wouldn't recommend driving on that road unless you have the proper suspension, good shock absorbers, and great tires. Wait until they pave it, which now that there is that new casino out there won't be long . Feel badly for the beautiful and remote country-side that was once Jamul. The only thing to be worried about is the over-development of what was once limited open space which we could all enjoy.
- Archie of Bonita, California on 2016-10-31 said:
- We have been living in Sunnyside since 1987. There was a time when we carried a stick to walk. We saw Coyotes, Eagles, Rattle Snakes and Eagles flying off with snakes and rabbits.
I recall seeing more accidents on that dirt road on daily basis even when their was no traffic. Usually a lone driver would skid off the road into a ditch. Someone's tormented spirit is watching, possibly we are desecrating sacred Indian land.
Sometimes at night I am out on a deck upstairs looking at full moon, or on dark night try to look at the constellation.
I will always remember, On night before halloween, after an incessant stream of aeroplanes were coming to land at at Lindbergh. It comes around Mother Mount Miguel and heads from East to West. I kept looking at one of the lights as it come closer and closer, there was no droning sound, a bright light swooshed over my head, and I got awakened to the loud barking of my dog on the deck looking in the direction of the vanishing light. What was it?
- Anonymous on 2016-08-15 said:
- I grew up living these legends. Proctor Valley Road was the easy way to get to my buddys house in Jamul. A lot of the eerieness of Proctor was the evening fog accumulation.And the beer.
- Gregory D. McLean of sun city, CA on 2016-08-15 said:
- The story on the Proctor Valley Monster is not real, sorry to say. A group of us in the 60's from Bonita Vista High were getting stoned out there. We were telling story's about ghost and made this up. By the way, It started out as part cow. We got a good laugh on how it expanded out. Still do laugh about it. But this was just a made up story by a group of stoner's back in the sixty's. We partied a lot out there back then, even had a few races down that dirt road to Jamul. We at Bonita Vista High in the sixty's threw some of the biggest stoner party's in southern ca. We had people showing up in the canyons from all over for our party's. We even had a semi truck show up at one because he heard about the party in northern ca. So you see that monster was just a weed induced creature.
- Connie Bell of Beebe , Arkansas on 2016-02-14 said:
- I drove this road once. I was always curious about it. Never heard any of the "ghost" stories till now. I almost wrecked my car on one of the curves. Never could find the road again. No matter how much I searched for it.
- James berry of spring valley, ca on 2016-02-03 said:
- i hear of the proctor valley lady , but i hunting that valley varmint hunting and riding my motorcycles their and never seen anything other that cotoyes and bobcats and cows back in the 1970s
- Victoria DeVille of Spring Valley, ca on 2015-12-04 said:
- This had me rolling on the floor laughing my ass off.. I grew up in this area. Went to Steele canyon high school which is right on campo rd/ old 94. Proctor valley rd is right up the street. I've been to the bakery several times before it was sadly torn down. I believe it was torn down due to the fact of there being so many bees n trespassors. It was def creepy no doubt about it. But I really think it was the story that played with our minds along with the weed n mad dog 20/20 that would always be in tow with the groups that kicked it there. Proctor valley rd was always fun to go offroading but cops were always out there so we tended to keep away. These stories brought back some good memories.. But their exactly what they r just stories...
- Ron Hickman of Jamul, ca on 2015-10-21 said:
- Oh yeah I have a comment. I have lived in Proctor Valley since 1970 and I have seen a few strange things here. Just last summer as I was entering the Eucalyptus Grove on my mountain bike just as it got dark. I could barely see when all of a sudden this non-colored oval shaped light about 50 yards right in front of me where the trail goes into the grove was moving slightly from left to right, up and down. It was I,d say about 5,6,7 feet high, 2,3 wide. When I rubbed my eyes to make sure I was,nt seeing things, there was a kinda of a grunt like a "aaaagghhh" in a female or child,s tone. Not a man! I only got to look at it for no more than 3,4 seconds, then SWOOSH it flew off to my right into the grove. I took another way home through Echo Valley. I,ve been wanting to go back, but have,nt got the time. There has been several other incidents I,ve encountered in this area and by the Haven. Also Deerhorn Valley. More on that later. I think what I have seen is pretty cool. Not scary!
- roy of st augustine, florida on 2015-09-06 said:
- I lived out there in 70-71,Used to ride dirt bikes out there, Never saw or heard anything unusual. Did hear there was a hippy commune in the area. Does any one recall any thing about that.
- Chris Manley on 2015-08-24 said:
- Grew up in Chula Vista also lived in Jamul. Most the stories are B.S. walked it once on a dare back in 1970, was a little creepy, but nothing happened. Just your imagination taking over. :)
Shame they developed it.
- Tara of Chula Vista, CA on 2015-08-15 said:
- I used to drive my sons down that road as babies when they couldn't go to sleep. Although it was somewhat relaxing because your away from "the city", it was also ominous. I felt fine as long as I was moving but would be terrified if my car broke down.
- Jan-Nicole of Bonita, Ca on 2015-07-18 said:
- I grew up out there and great granpa had a ranch on Jonel Way. I spent a lot of time out there as a teen. The mysterious lights caused me and my friends to crash our car one day! Tried to outrun them, lost control on a turn. Came to rest facing the other way and once the dust settled the lights were gone. I saw some weird cult type stuff up by the old airstrip. Strange wood cut outs of human heads with X's for eyes and screaming mouths painted on them. I also saw a black figure following us down the Bonita side of Proctor and the radio....yep! Radio would always go haywire about 200 feet off the paved road.
- Anonymous on 2015-07-03 said:
- I think I will skip the tour down proctor valley road when I visit Southern California
- Angela jones on 2015-06-10 said:
- cycled the bumpy road and saw tarantulas it's hard hot ride but most enjoyable cycling back past otay lake
- Eli Webster of Wellsville, UT on 2015-06-10 said:
- I spent Two Years living in San Diego and spent 6 months living at the endish of Deerhorn Valley rd. Even in my short time in San Diego County I heard most of these stories Proctor Valley Road is one of my favorite drives.
- David Dashnaw of from Lemon Grove/Spring Valley, ca on 2015-06-09 said:
- I remember people telling Stories back in the late 80's early 90's. I personally have driven that road in day and night..... But, we were usually pretty stoned and I can't recall anything wired happening. I do remember the tense feeling that something could go wrong out there though.
- Jacque Mays of bend, oregon on 2015-06-09 said:
- i grew up in that area. And heard all the stories and they did have a chilling effect. I have a friend and we liked going on drives she had never heard the stories. I kept saying no, stop don't go that way". She said I will prove the stories aren't real". Then the car went over a cliff and we were shook up and bruised but ok. The scariest thing was it was late, no lights and we walked hoping to find a way out. Then we realized we had not tried driving out. So we went back and the car started right up and we drove home. She did not prove her case.
- larry russell of el cajon , ca on 2015-06-09 said:
- do you remember the tale of the old lady that would walk the proctor valley road late at night and call for her lost kids? that always got the girls going!! there are many tales of the proctor valley area! my time was in the early 6Os. when it was wide open.
- Patrick O'Rourke of St Clair Shores, Mi on 2015-06-08 said:
- I grew up just I Chula Vista just miles From there never saw an thing and since when did buildings in that area start getting basments??
- Rory F. See of from Jamul, California on 2015-06-08 said:
- i lived in Jamul for 21 years, traveled Proctor Valley many times even walked all the way through it from Otay Lakes to Jamul in the middle of the night & have never noticed anything inusual. I actually enjoyed the whole experience!
- Jessie of MINN on 2015-06-07 said:
- I was a Dulzura resident and there were stories that would knock your socks off. I thought they were mostly made up by parents to keep their teens out of those dark lonely no-no roads,
- Bill Black of San Diego, California on 2015-06-07 said:
- I don't believe in the supernatural
I think it is a bunch of malarky. But I ain't going out there day or night. Not even with a platoon of Marines.
- Ted Andreas of El Cajon, Ca on 2015-06-07 said:
- I remember our group of friends talked of the "Proctor Valley Prick". Does anyone else remember this?
- pablo of el cajon, California on 2015-06-07 said:
- The only thing I know is true for sure is the headlights behind you. I went with my buddies from Valhalla in 2013 and we kept driving deeper ans deeper until we saw some white headlights behind us getting closer each time. We decided to go back because we thought it was a border patrol or a sheriff but for our surprise those lights never appeared, and theres no way they couldve dissappeared just like that because theres a metal bar on the sides so you cant drive off the road. It was weird
- Aaron of San Diegoon 2015-06-07 said:
- The Haven is real, I had a friend who lived there for about a year with his parents, in maybe '98, I didnt know of the stories back then, but I spent the night there once and I can tell you it was the creepiest place I've ever been, Rumor was the basement was haunted, but was too damaged to go down. cant say that I experienced anything odd, but was definetly not comfortable there. Thanks for this trend, I had no idea about these stories. There is also tales of the gravity hill, near Dictonary hill, where is you park your car in nutral at the bottom of the hill, it will roll uphill by itself.
- Bill Adkins Jr of Greenville, SC on 2015-06-07 said:
- I had a friend who had a paper route in Procter Valley.She told me a lot of weird things that happened to her.
- Johnny u of Spring valley, Cal on 2015-06-07 said:
- My friends and I were parked on a hill. We saw kkk or a cult, thought they were sacrificing someone. They saw us, the chase was on... On the way out, there was a cows head on the road. That was freaky. We did get away
- Geri of Mokena, Il on 2015-06-07 said:
- I lived in Jamul from 1969 to 1982. There was never a Haven bakery. The was a great restaurant called Haven in the Hills near Vista Sage. Great place to eat. Just east of that across from Vista Sage was a home everyone referred to as 'the goat lady'. She was pretty strange. Proctor Valley Rd was a good shortcut to Big Bear grocery store in Bonita. It was a dirt road. A lot of ghost type stories circulated but I never recall any real tragedies.
- Derek Urch of Brownsville, Texas on 2015-06-07 said:
- I grew up in Jamul and Proctor Valley Road was a regular ride for my friends and I late at night. One time we drove to spring valley on PVR and turned around where it turns to pavement. As we passed the hanging tree we saw someone hanging from it, but we had just passed it a few minutes before and there was nobody in the tree then. About 50 yards after we passed the tree a car turned on its headlights and rushed out of the brush and chased us to the end of the dirt road on the Jamul side. It was one of the scariest times of my life... but of course we went back later that night...
- Gina of El Cajon & Jamul, California on 2015-06-07 said:
- We had the proctor Valley Monster back in the 70's. The blue people didn't show up until the 80's. Had a few good times on Proctor Valley Road, but the weirdest thing out there were me and my friends! LOL
- Ty of Spring Valley, ca. on 2015-06-07 said:
- As a kid we all heard about the proctor valley monster
- Stranger SPRING VALLEY on 2015-06-07 said:
- I grew up in the Spring Valley area. We use to go shooting on Procter Valley rd. We never seen anything crazy or outta this world, lol. I have drove down it in the middle of the night a few times to get to Chula Vista.
- Robby Stevens of Delzura (San Diego), CA on 2015-06-07 said:
- Drove that road almost every day for year straight. I can tell you the radio changing stations on its own is true. It got so damn annoying I would just turn it off from Jamul to East Lake.
- NP of Jamul, ca on 2015-06-06 said:
- Yes, I've heard of the blue people. There ones who single out people in remote areas of Jamul (particularly procter valley road) and taking them off the road and sacrificing them, also cattle.
- Brian Beeson of Chula Vista , ca on 2015-06-06 said:
- spent many nights out in Proctor Valley when I was a teenager, searching for the monster, and the only luck we had was with the girls we took with us.
- stacy of crest, ca on 2015-06-06 said:
- I believe it! People all over the county know the stories. The bakery foesure, we saw a black mass go down the hall way and then dissappear off the balcony and the basement was super creepy. The blue people do exist, they would come into our work in Rancho san diego and their skin complexion was totally blue purple, you would think it's something wrong with one person but for his wife and children to be blue too, very weird!
- Jauhn Hinkle of bonita, california on 2015-06-06 said:
- ive both heard and propagated several of these. The most true is the animal mutilation version which was researched in detail by our local columnist Richard Pena. Some kids on the 30s? Did string cow intestines on the barbed wire along the road. The teens parking in car may be backed up with a unincorporated 1975? Sheriffs's homicide report. The phenomenon in late 7os early 80s was a nude almost feral vagrant with unkept hair and nails who would watch parking teens until he reached some type of ... Err climax? And then pound on the hood of the car violently then run away. It's been a while since that happened. I drive it often.. There was a mutilated goat there 3 years ago but it appeared to be coyotes. Here's what I know for sure... Don't jog or walk it alone even in the day without protection. Weirdos will sometimes drive up slow beside you and show you a gun or leer menacingly. Humans..as always...the worst monsters out there.
- Brian of Jamul, CA on 2015-06-06 said:
- I have drove that road for 40 years, parted there so many nights it's hard to say. Off-roading day and night and never had anything weird happen. I do know the Blue People. Not a thing wrong with them, just a skin problem they got from taking meds in Mexico.
- tom of jamul, ca on 2015-06-06 said:
- Ive been in jamul for 42 yrs and we never had a bakery. There's a Wallgreens about 10 miles away in el cajon. I dont know why that part of the story is even in there. I grew up partying as teens and early 20's in Proctor Valley...Good time indeed.
- chris of spring valley, ca on 2015-06-06 said:
- I have been on that road several times the worst thing that happened to me was driving down that road with a friend and the vibration from the rough road knocked his intake loose that was it
- Brian of Ledcock, Fenderbender1972@gmail.com on 2015-06-06 said:
- It's all BS. We used to call it Satan Farms. My Valhalla buddies and I from Class of 90 used to drive through there late at night. Spooky but harmless.
- Mary of Jamul, Ca on 2015-06-06 said:
- Saw the "monster" once. Had gone many times looking for it. It was a very shaggy unkept horse. Actually kinda medium size to small. No killer in the shy fellow. It was daylight in the late 70s near sunset. The poor thing was out all alone just munching grass. It's coat was so long and tangled and matted that I was too scared to try to put a halter on it. The blue people are real. Real nice. Their kids played soccer with mine in Jamul for awhile. Never caught their names but extremely considerate and kind.
- Gail (Kirby) Hoover of Santee, California on 2015-06-06 said:
- In the 70's the story was the couple ran out of gas, he went for gas while she stayed in car. She heard scary noises through the night. Woke to find his severed head on hood of car. Police investigated a homicide
- Larry eliason of jamul, ca on 2015-06-06 said:
- I drive that road every day for 12 years night and day. The only thing I see are careless drivers trying to break their best time!
- Mary of Jamulon 2015-06-06 said:
- Yes there was the Haven Bakery off Vista Sage. It was torn down about 06 or so. It set back off the 94 with a little water mill next to it
- Dyann Zendejas of San diego, calif on 2015-06-06 said:
- I used to go to procter valley rd as a teenager. My friends and I would use it as a short cut to get back to Lemon Grove. It was a loney dirt road, and I would get so uneasy driving on it. My hair would stand up on end. I always would feel someone or something was watching us!!! After what ive read, Im sooo happy i never enoounterd the evil spirt that lives on Proctor Rd!!!!!
- The Bus Story of San Diego, California on 2015-06-06 said:
- There was also a story (back in 1989), that there was a bus full of children that died at the bottom of some hill. And that if you drove there at night, and turned off your headlights (and all the lights in your car) for 10 minutes and continued to drive; when you turned headlights on again, there'd be hand prints on your car window from the "children" trying to stop your car from crashing.
- Michael E. of CA on 2015-06-06 said:
- I know the blue people, they're my grandparents. The only reason that their skin is blue was from taking a medicine called colloidal silver during the 1980's.
- RJ of Lakeside, ca on 2015-06-06 said:
- I have been to the Haven bakery in Jamul. It was by far the scariest place I've ever been. I've been through the whole house including the basement, in the middle of the night!! It took me 3 times visiting before I had the guts to enter the home.
- Mike Yano of Chula Vista, CA on 2015-06-06 said:
- We all played in the sweet water valley little league afew streets away from proctor valley rd. Rode dirt bikes & shot guns out ther, used to goto the rc plane field to watch. Never once were we told of any spirits or ghosts... But later on lots of friends had accidents in their cars/trucks out there including this crash test dummy. Grew up there went to Ella B. Allen & valley vista elementary schools, Bonita Vista Jr. & High schools & Southwestern mom n pops still there!
- Gregory May of San Diego, California on 2015-06-05 said:
- Born out from intoxicated minors partying!
- Christie D. of Chula Vista, California on 2015-06-05 said:
- What about the little blue people? Aren't they the aliens?
Last Edited: 2015-04-18